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Artificers

1908 01 03
Establishment of the rating of Boy Artificer
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 21st day of December, 1907.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the seventeenth day of December, one thousand nine hundred and seven, in the words following, viz. :

Whereas by section three of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, etc.

And whereas Your Majesty, by Your Order in Council of the twenty-eighth day of March, one thousand nine hundred and three, was graciously pleased to sanction the establishment of the rating of Boy Artificer and to lay down regulations for their advancement :

And whereas we are of opinion that it is desirable to modify the regulations of advancement shown therein :

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased by Your Order in Council to sanction the following rules being substituted for those laid down in section one, clauses one to four, of the above-mentioned Order in Council, viz. :

The establishment of the rating of Boy Artificer to be borne on Ship's Books with pay as follows:-

1st year 6d. a day in addition to victualling
2nd year 7d. a day
3rd year 8d. a day
4th year 9d. a day

On completion of the prescribed course in the Mechanical Training Establishments and having passed the required technical examination, to be rated Engine Room Artificer, Fifth Class, with pay of 3s. a day.

Time served as Engine Room Artificer Fifth Class to count for advancement.

Having completed the necessary practical training in seagoing ships, to be eligible for the rating of Acting Engine Room Artificer, Fourth Class, with the pay and advantages of that rating, and subject to the same regulations.

We would further submit that the above regulations may take effect as from the first day of January, one thousand nine hundred and seven.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in these proposals.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, etc.
W. FitzRoy.


1930 03 04
Boy Artificer - Allowances
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 27th February, 1930.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 14th day of February, 1930 (N. 365/30), in the words following, viz. :-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted, inter alia, that all pay, wages, or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been a Seaman or Marine therein shall be paid in such manner, and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas by His late Majesty's Order in Council bearing date the 23rd day of October, 1905, we are authorized to grant to Boy Artificers selected to act as Chief Petty Officer Boys or Petty Officer Boys weekly allowances at the following rates, viz :

Chief Petty Officer Boys 4d. a week.
Petty Officer Boys 3d. a week.

And whereas in the Regulations for the Government of Your Majesty's Naval Service, and in Order in Council bearing date the 3rd November, 1927, such Boy Artificers are now designated Artificer Apprentices:

And whereas we consider it desirable to increase the allowances payable to Artificer Apprentices selected to act as Chief Petty Officer Apprentices and Petty Officer Apprentices in Your Majesty's Mechanical Training Establishment at Chatham:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased by Your Order in Council to authorize us to increase the weekly allowances payable to Chief Petty Officer Apprentices and Petty Officer Apprentices in Your Majesty's Mechanical Training Establishment at Chatham to the following rates, viz.:-

Chief Petty Officer Boys 1s. a week.
Petty Officer Boys 6d. a week.

The Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in this proposal.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
M. P. A. Hankey.


1936 07 17
Artificer Apprentices - some to be trained in Dockyards
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 3rd day of July, 1936.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 29th day of June, 1936 (N. 1532/36), in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted inter alia, that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein, shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas under the authority of Order in Council dated the 28th March, 1903, Boys are entered in Your Majesty's Navy as Artificer Apprentices to be trained at Naval Establishments for service in the Fleet:

And whereas in view of the need for additional Artificers in Your Majesty's Navy, we consider that the normal provision for training should be supplemented by the training of Naval Artificer Apprentices in Your Majesty's Dockyards under the general conditions applicable to Dockyard Apprentices:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased by Your Order in Council to authorise us to extend to the Naval Artificer Apprentice when under training in the Royal Dockyards, the scale of remuneration payable to the Dockyard Apprentice:

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in the above proposals.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
M. P. A. Hankey.


1937 10 26
Artificer Apprentices - Pay
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 22nd day of October, 1937.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 16th day of August, 1937, (N.5422/I937) in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas by section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted inter alia that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas the rates of pay authorised under Order in Council of 3rd November, 1927, for Artificer Apprentices are progressive for each year of Apprentice training:

And whereas we consider it necessary as a temporary measure, to enter a number of Artificer Apprentices of not less than 18 years of age who have had not less than two and a half years' apprenticeship in civil life and to complete their training in two years, after which they will be sent to sea as Artificers 5th class:

And whereas we consider it desirable to pay these Apprentices during their two years' training at the rates applicable, respectively, to third and fourth year Apprentices as authorised by Schedule I of Order in Council of 3rd November, 1927:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased by Your Order in Council to sanction payment accordingly, with effect from whatever date may be selected for the first entries of Artificer Apprentices under this scheme.

The Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in this proposal.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
M. P. A. Hankey.


1938 07 29
Shipwright Artificers - Entry and Pay
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 28th day of July, 1938.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 16th day of June, 1938 (N. 3288/38), in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted, inter alia, that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein, shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas under Order in Council of 9th February, 1920, Naval Shipwright Apprentices receive the same rates of remuneration as Dockyard Apprentices on a graduated scale for each year of service:

And whereas we consider it necessary as a temporary measure, to enter a number of Naval Shipwright Apprentices of not less than 18 years of age who have had not less than 2 years' apprenticeship in civil life and to retain them in the Naval Dockyards until they have completed the normal 5 years' training, inclusive of their previous experience, after which they would be advanced to Shipwright 5th class:

And whereas it is desired that these special entries shall be merged for purposes of pay as apprentices (but not for Naval pension purposes) as if their previous apprentice service had been in the Royal Navy:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased, by Your Order in Council, to sanction payment accordingly from whatever date may be selected for the first entries under this Scheme.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in this proposal.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
M. P. A. Hankey.


1939 05 12
Artificers Reorganisation
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 5th day of May, 1939.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 26th day of April, 1939, (N.1750/39) in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted, inter alia, that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein, shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas the regulations for the government of Your Majesty's Naval Service provide for the sub-division of the ratings of Chief Artificer in the Air, Electrical, Engine Room and Ordnance Branches, Chief Shipwright and Chief Mechanician into two classes, advancement to the higher (first) class being conditional upon six years' approved service in the lower (second) class and carrying an increase in substantive pay of one shilling a day:

And whereas we consider it desirable to combine these two classes into one class of Chief Artificer, Chief Shipwright or Chief Mechanician with the basic rate of pay of the present second class and two triennial increments of sixpence a day in place of the existing increase of one shilling a day on advancement from second to first class:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased by Your Order in Council to sanction the establishment of the new ratings of Chief Artificer, (Air, Electrical, Engine-Room and Ordnance), Chief Shipwright and Chief Mechanician with the rates of pay set forth in the subjoined Schedule.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in this proposal.

Schedule.

Rating.

Rate per diem.

 

A.

B.

 

s.

d.

s.

d.

Chief Air Artificer

10

6

11

6

Chief Electrical Artificer

Chief Engine-Room Artificer

Chief Ordnance Artificer

Chief Shipwright

Chief Mechanician

After 3 years as such

11

0

12

0

After 6 years as such

11

6

12

6

Rates A to be payable to men in receipt of the rates of pay introduced as from 5th October, 1925.

Rates B to be payable to men in receipt of the rates of pay current prior to 5th October, 1925.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
Rupert B. Howorth.


1939 06 27
PO & CPO Apprentice Artificers
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 23rd day of June, 1939.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 26th day of May, 1939 (N. 4084/39), in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted, inter alia, that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein, shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas by Order in Council dated the 27th February, 1930, authority is given for the payment of weekly allowances to Artificer Apprentices in Your Majesty's Mechanical Training Establishment at Chatham, who are selected to act as Chief Petty Officer Apprentice or Petty Officer Apprentice

And whereas Air Apprentices were instituted by Order in Council dated the 6th May, 1938, to be trained for branches of Fleet Air Arm personnel, and are selected for Chief Petty Officer Apprentice and Petty Officer Apprentice posts in a similar manner to Artificer Apprentices, and in our opinion should be paid the same weekly allowances:

And whereas it is now necessary for Apprentices to be trained in establishments other than the Mechanical Training Establishment at Chatham, and, with the exception of those who are trained in Your Majesty's Dockyards, a proportion of the Apprentices carry out the duties of Chief Petty Officer Apprentice or Petty Officer Apprentice:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty by Your Order in Council may be graciously pleased to sanction, with effect from the 18th May, 1939, the payment of allowances at the rates of:-

1s. a week for Chief Petty Officer Apprentices

6d. a week for Petty Officer Apprentices to such Artificer Apprentices and Air Apprentices as are selected to carry out the appropriate duties in a Training Establishment.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in the above proposals.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
Rupert B. Howorth.


1942 09 18
Qualifying Time for Chief Artificer
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 17th day of September, 1942.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lord Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 10th day of August, 1942, in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted inter alia that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas by Order in Council of the 30th November, 1882, an Engine Room Artificer was rendered eligible for advancement under such regulations as we may establish to Chief Engine Room Artificer after six years approved service:

And whereas similar provision was made for the Electrical and Ordnance Artificer Branches by Orders in Council of the 13th October, 1910, and 13th October, 1920:

And whereas we consider that changing circumstances may render it desirable to fix a longer or a shorter period than six years as the service qualifying these Artificers for advancement.

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously. pleased by Your Order in Council to authorise us to determine the qualifying period of service for advancement to Chief Artificer as we may from time to time consider appropriate.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in the foregoing proposals.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
E. C. E. Leadbitter.


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