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Fire Control allowances

LG 1919 10 10
Fire Control allowances
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 9th day of October, 1919.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right

Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 18th day of August, 1919, in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas, it is provided by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted, inter alia, that all pay, pensions, or other allowances in the nature thereof, payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Forces to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman, or Marine therein, shall be paid in such manner, and subject to such restrictions, conditions, and provisions, as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas we consider it desirable to grant an allowance to certain daymen employed in connection with the Fire Control System in Your Majesty's Ships :

We beg leave humbly to, recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased, by Your Order in Council, to sanction the grant, under the conditions set forth below, of a proficiency allowance of 3d. a day to Bandmasters and Band Corporals and to Regulating Branch (late Ship's Police), Schoolmaster, Writer and Victualling Ratings whilst employed on the more important duties in the fire control system, which call for special knowledge and ability, e.g. Plotters, Range Corrector, Dumaresq Worker, Clock Operator, Deflection Keeper, etc.

  1. No rating to receive the allowance until he has satisfactorily performed the duty in the ship in which he is serving for three months
  2. The allowance not to be paid in respect of duties the performance of which is provided for by the inclusion of a Seaman Gunner or higher rating in the Quarter Bill
  3. The allowance to be paid only to men actually engaged on duties of the nature specified and not to exceed. the following maximum numbers in each ship:
    • Battleships - 6
    • Battle Cruisers - 6
    • Cruisers - 4
    • Light Cruisers - 3
    • Large Monitors - 2

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in the foregoing proposals.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
Almeric FitzRoy.


1923 07 31
Fire Control allowance on Aircraft Carriers
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 30th July, 1923.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 12th day of July, 1923 (N. 2885/23), in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas, it is provided by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted, inter alia, that all pay, pensions, or other allowances in the nature thereof, payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Forces to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman, or Marine therein, shall be paid in such manner, and subject to such restrictions, conditions, and provisions, as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas we consider that the enhanced complexity of the fire control equipment in certain Aircraft carriers in Your Majesty's Navy justifies payment in these vessels of the higher fire control allowance of 3d. a day authorized by Your Orders in Council of 9th October, 1919, and 11th October, 1921:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased, by Your Order in Council, to authorize as from the 22nd June, 1923, payment in Aircraft Carriers of the higher Fire Control allowance of 3d. a day to a total of not more than three ratings of the branches of Your Majesty's Navy named in the Orders in Council cited.


1928 06 26
Fire Control Pay for Daymen
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 15th day of June, 1928.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 29th day of May, 1928 (N. 1537/28), in the words following, viz. :-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted, inter alia, that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas by Your Majesty's Orders in Council dated the 9th October, 1919, the 11th October, 1921, and the 30th July, 1923, an allowance of 3d. a day was granted to Band Ranks of the Royal Marines and Regulating, Writer and Supply ratings whilst employed on the more important duties in the fire control system which call for special knowledge and ability, e.g. Plotters, Range Corrector, Dumaresq Worker, Clock Operator, Deflection Keeper, etc., no rating to receive the allowance until he has satisfactorily performed the duty for three months in the ship in which he is serving:

And whereas we consider it desirable that the probationary period should be abolished:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased, by Your Order in Council, to sanction as from the 15th May, 1928, the payment of this allowance as from the day on which the Commanding Officer, on the recommendation of the Gunnery Officer, decides that the man is competent to perform the work.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in this proposal.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
M, P. A. Hankey.


1931 08 07
Fire Control
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 23rd day of July, 1931.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 21st day of July, 1931. (N.P. (2) 943/31), in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions. Act, 1865, it is enacted, inter alia, that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas by Your Majesty’s Orders in Council dated the 9th October, 1919, the 11th October, 1921, the 30th July 1923, and the 15th June, 1928, an allowance of 3d. a day was granted to Band ranks of the Royal Marines and Regulating, Writer and Supply ratings whilst employed on the more important duties in the fire control system which call for special knowledge and ability, e.g. Plotters, Range Corrector, Dumaresq Worker, Clock Operator, Deflection Keeper, etc.:

And whereas we are of opinion that Officers' Stewards, Officers' Cooks and Cook ratings should in future be rendered eligible to receive this allowance under similar conditions:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased by Your Order in Council to authorize us to grant the higher fire control allowance to ratings of the additional branches cited.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in this proposal.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
Colin Smith.


1942 06 16
Fire Control Allowances
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 11th day of June, 1942.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty dated the 4th day of June, 1942 (N. 12378/1942), in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted inter alia that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas under Orders in Council of 9th October, 1919, 11th October, 1921, 30th July, 1923, 15th June, 1928, 23rd July, 1931, and 23rd November, 1937, a higher fire control allowance of 3d. a day is payable to ratings of the Regulating, Writer, Supply Officers’ Steward, Officers' Cook and Cook Branches and Band ranks R.M. who are engaged on the more important duties in the fire control system in all classes of Your Majesty's ships, the number of allowances in each vessel being regulated by Service requirements:

And whereas in view of the developments and complexity of the fire control system we consider that the responsibilities of certain fire control personnel are now such as to warrant an increase in allowances:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased, by Your Order in Council, to sanction the establishment of two grades of higher fire control allowance, one of 6d. a day and the other of 3d. a day, the total number of allowances in each vessel to be regulated as heretofore by Service requirements at our discretion.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in this proposal.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
Rupert B. Howorth.


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