Lamp Trimmers - Allowances

Admiralty Order in Council No. 167

24 July 1901.


Allowance paid to Marine Lamp-trimmers extended to Seaman Ratings.

Whereas (1) under Article 1481 of the Regulations for the government of Your Majesty's Naval Service, 1899, a Private of Royal Marines employed as Lamp-trimmer in a ship in which the rating is allowed in the complement, is to receive 2d, a day, in addition to his pay, and other allowances, and (.2) under Article 1479 certain allowances are payable to the Senior or only Lamp-trimmer, or to the person acting in that capacity, for the due care of the lamps and lamp stores on board ;

And whereas in certain vessels of Your Majesty's Fleet no Marines are allowed in the complement, and Seamen are consequently employed in the rating; and under certain circumstances the lamps and lamp stores of some of Your Majesty's Ships are necessarily in the care of more than one of the Lamp-trimmers allowed in the complement.

We would humbly submit that Your Majesty will be graciously pleased to sanction the following proposals, viz. : -

1. That the allowance of 2d. a day to the Marine Lamp-trimmer may be paid to the person employed as Lamp-trimmer, whether Seamen or Marine, in ships and vessels in the complements of which the rating is allowed.

2. And that we may be empowered, in the cases where the lamps and lamp stores are in the care of one or more of the duly authorised Lamp-trimmers, to regulate the payment of such allowances, within the authorised rates among the several Lamp-trimmers having charge of such lamps and stores.

We would also submit that the foregoing arrangements should take effect from the 1st day of April 1901.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence herein.

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Lamp Trimmers - Allowances

At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 6th day of July, 1907.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the twenty-ninth day of .June, one thousand nine hundred and seven, in the words following, viz.:

Whereas by Her late Majesty's Order in Council bearing date the twenty-ninth November one thousand eight hundred and eighty-one, an allowance at a rate varying according to the class of ship is payable to the senior or only lamp-trimmer, or person acting in that capacity, for the due care of the lamps on board Your Majesty's ships

And whereas the classification of Your Majesty's ships as therein contained is no longer suitable to the requirements of Your Majesty's Fleet:

And whereas by section three of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1863, etc.

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased by Your Order in Council to sanction the payment of the following allowances in lieu of those sanctioned by the aforementioned Order in Council of Her late Majesty, the payment to take effect from such dates and under such conditions, as we may deem expedient, viz.:

    Fighting Ships:

    Type of Ship Allowance
    Battleship Not exceeding 4d. a day
    Cruiser 1st class
    Cruiser 2nd class Not exceeding 2d. a day.
    Cruiser 3rd class
    Smaller vessels allowed a lamp-trimmer 1d. a day.

    (2.) Other vessels, barracks, hulks, etc., in which the services of a lamp-trimmer are required:-

    An allowance at a rate to be fixed at our discretion but not exceeding 4d. a day.

    The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in these proposals.

    His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, etc.
    W. FitzRoy.

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