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Non-Substantive Rates

1935 04 09
Seamen - Non-Substantive Gunnery Rates Review
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 28th day of March, 1935.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 22nd day of Marsh, 1935 (N. 718/35), in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted inter alia that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as axe from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas Orders in Council bearing dates the 29th day of February, 1908, the 30th day of May, 1919, the 17th day of May, 1920, and the 5th day of November, 1928, sanctioned certain changes in the Non-Substantive Gunnery Ratings held by Petty Officers and Seamen of the Royal Navy and by Non-Commissioned Officers and Men of the Royal Marines, whereby men are at present employed and paid in the Non-Substantive ratings of Gunlayer, First and Second Class, Director Layer, First and Second Class, and Rangetaker, First, Second and Third Clams:

And whereas we are of opinion that only one class of Director Layer and one class of Gunlayer are now required for the efficient performance of the Gunnery duties of Your Majesty's Fleet:

And whereas we are also of opinion that it is desirable to abolish the rating of Rangetaker, Third Class, and to provide other remuneration for range-taking duties in Submarines:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased, by Your Order in Council to sanction the following proposals, with effect from the 1st day of April, 1935:

  1. The non-substantive ratings of Director Layer and Gunlayer to be established, with pay of 1s. a day and 6d. a day, respectively;
  2. Existing holders of the non-substantive ratings of Director Layer, Second Class, and Gunlayer, Second Class, to be assimilated to the new grades as we may direct; men holding the ratings of Director Layer, First Class, and Gunlayer, First Class, to continue to hold those ratings and receive the present rates of pay of 1s. 3d. a day and 1s. a day, respectively, so long as they remain efficient in the non-substantive rating;
  3. The non-substantive rating of Rangetaker, Third Class, to be abolished; ratings performing range-taking duties in Submarines to be granted an allowance of 2d. a day, to be designated Range-finding Allowance in Submarines.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in these proposals.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
M. P. A. Hankey.


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