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Royal Naval Reserve Enginemen - Pay

1922 12 19
And whereas by Your Majesty's Order in Council, dated the 17th May, 1920, it was approved, inter alia, that the revised rates of pay therein sanctioned for Petty Officers, Non-Commissioned Officers, and Men of Your Majesty's Navy should be applicable to equivalent ratings of the Royal Naval Reserve.

And whereas it has become necessary to fix the precise relative rank of Chief Enginemen and Enginemen of the Royal Naval Reserve with ratings of the Royal Navy, for purposes of pay:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased, by Your Order in Council, to sanction the grant of relative rank and pay to Chief Enginemen and Enginemen of the Royal Naval Reserve as stated in the following Schedule:

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have, signified their concurrence in these proposals.

Schedule.

  1. Chief Enginemen, R.N.R., to rank with Chief Stokers or Mechanicians, R.N., and to receive pay when undergoing training or called up for actual service at the following rates, viz.:
  2.  

    Per Diem.

    s.

    d.

    On being rated

    9

    0

    After 3 years' mobilised service as such

    9

    6

  3. Enginemen, R.N.R., to rank on entry with Stoker Petty Officers, R.N., of 4 years' seniority, and to receive pay when undergoing training or called up for actual service at the following rates:-
  4.  

    Per Diem

    s.

    d.

    On being rated

    7

    10

    After 3 years' mobilised service as such

    8

    2

  5. Chief Enginemen and Enginemen, R.N.R., also to receive payment of Machinery Allowance at the rate of 6d. a day when placed in charge of the machinery of small craft, the indicated horse-power or brake horse-power of which exceeds 100.
  6. Chief Enginemen and Enginemen enrolled in the Royal Naval Reserve before the 1st April, 1921, to continue to be paid, when undergoing training or called up for actual service during the period of their current enrolment, at the rates of 9s. 5d. and 8s. 5d. per diem respectively.

1939 05 09
RNR Patrol Service - Clarification of Ratings
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 5th day of May, 1939.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 12th day of April, 1939 (N. 144/39), in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted, inter alia, that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein, shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas the Regulations for the government of Your Majesty's Naval Service provide for enrolment in the Royal Naval Reserve of certain classes of rating exclusively for employment in the Patrol Service of Your Majesty's Fleet, Petty Officers of the Seaman and Stoker Branches bearing the respective titles of Second Hand and Engineman:

And whereas it is further provided that ratings of the Royal Naval Reserve, whilst under training or during mobilisation, shall receive the same rates of pay as corresponding ratings of the Royal Navy, an Engineman (R.N.R.) being deemed for this purpose the equivalent of a Stoker Petty Officer (R.N.) with three years' service as such and in possession of the Stokehold Certificate:

And whereas we find it expedient that recruitment into the Royal Naval Reserve should cease on mobilisation, entry into the Patrol Service being solely by way of engagement in the Royal Navy for the period of hostilities only, and we consider it desirable that Petty Officers of the Seaman and Stoker Branches who may be so recruited shall be given titles and rates of pay identical with those of Second Hands and Enginemen in the Royal Naval Reserve as authorised by Order in Council of 3rd November, 1927:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased, by Your Order in Council, to sanction the entry of such ratings accordingly with the titles and rates of pay set forth in the annexed schedule.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in these proposals.

Schedule.

Rating.

 

Rate per diem

 

s.

d.

Second Hand (P.S.)

6

0

After 3 years' mobilised service as such

6

5

After 6 years' mobilised service as such

6

10

Engineman (P.S.)

6

11

After 3 years' mobilised service as such

7

4

Chief Engineman (P.S.)

8

0

After 3 years' mobilised service as such

8

6

After 6 years' mobilised service as such

9

0

With subsequent increments of 6d. a day after each further period of 3 years' mobilised service as such.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
Rupert B. Howorth.


1940 10 04
Second Hand in Command in RNPS - Allowances
At the Court at Buckingham Palace; the 27th day of September, 1940

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, dated the 18th day of September, 1940 (N. 13613 /40), in the words following, viz.:-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted inter alia that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas Order in Council dated 24th March 1921 authorised payment subject to our discretion of an allowance of 9d. a day to ratings temporarily assuming command of small vessels:

And whereas we have found it expedient to place Second Hands in command of certain small vessels of the Royal Naval Patrol Service whose complements also include an Engineman with a basic rate of pay exceeding that of a Second Hand by more than 9d. a day:

And whereas we consider it inequitable and inconsistent with his assumed rank that a Second Hand in command should receive less pay than the Engineman employed in the same vessel and that, in order to remedy the existing disparity, a Second Hand holding a Board of Trade Certificate of Competency as such should receive an allowance of 1s. 6d. a day while in command of a vessel of the Royal Naval Patrol Service:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased, by Your Order in Council, to sanction payment accordingly with effect from 13th August 1940.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in this proposal.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
Rupert B. Howorth.


1942 12 18
Machinery Allowances for RNPS Enginemen employed on Diesels
At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 16th day of December, 1942.

Present, The King's Most Excellent Majesty in Council.

Whereas there was this day read at the Board a Memorial from the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty dated the 25th day of November, 1942 (N.) in the words following, viz. :-

Whereas by Section 3 of the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act, 1865, it is enacted inter alia that all pay, pensions or other allowances in the nature thereof payable in respect of services in Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force to a person being or having been an Officer, Seaman or Marine therein shall be paid in such manner and subject to such restrictions, conditions and provisions as are from time to time directed by Order in Council:

And whereas we consider that Enginemen of the R.N. Patrol Service qualified in steam machinery who are selected for manning certain vessels fitted with Diesel engines should receive additional remuneration:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased by Your Order in Council to sanction an allowance of 2s. a day for the first three months of the shore training of these Enginemen and one shilling a day for the following period of six months service on Diesel engines, or until such time as they became entitled to receive machinery allowance in a Diesel driven vessel, whichever period is the shorter.

The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in these proposals.

His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased, by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.
E. C. E. Leadbitter.


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