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Reduction of RN Ratings and Marine Ranks

1922 10 17
And whereas in view of the reduced requirements of Your Majesty's Naval Service a reduction has become necessary in the personnel of certain Naval ratings and Marine ranks:

And whereas we are of opinion that compensation for the loss of advantages which would have accrued to them in Your Majesty's Service should be paid to such men (with certain specified exceptions) as have been or may be selected for discharge for the purpose of such reduction:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased, by Your Order in Council, to sanction the payment of pensions, gratuities and bonuses at the rates, and subject to the restrictions, conditions and provisions set forth in the annexed Schedule, to those men who have been selected for discharge subsequently to the 12th May, 1922, in consequence of the reduction of Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force, or who may, at our discretion, hereafter be selected for discharge in order to complete that reduction, except in the following cases, viz.:

  1. men who are pensioners, or who have completed their engagements and have not re-engaged, unless they have become time-expired during the period of reduction and were not debarred from re-engagement by existing Regulations;
  2. men who have undertaken to serve only during a Ship's commission;
  3. foreigners or men of colour.
  4. The Lords Commissioners of Your Majesty's Treasury have signified their concurrence in these proposals.

Schedule.

Section A.

  1. Continuous service ratings (except those serving under Short Service engagements for definite periods of seven years or less), non-continuous service ratings and Marine ranks, with 12 or more years' pensionable service, reckoned up to the 11th August, 1922, to be eligible for pensions, £o date from the dap after ceasing pay, at the rates shown below. For the purpose of time to count for pension, the period up to the 11th August, 1922, to be reckoned in full, although discharge may have taken place before that date.
  2. If a man was detained beyond the 11th August, 1922, through causes not under his own control, the time for pension purposes to count to the date of his discharge.
     

    Basic Rate per diem

     

    Naval Ratings

    Royal Marines.

     

    s.

    d.

    s.

    d.

    Men with 20 years' pensionable service and over, reckoned up to the 11th August, 1922

    2

    9

    2

     

    (Full basic rate.)

     

    s.

    s.

    a.

    d.

    Men with 19 and under 20 years' pensionable service

    2

    7

    2

    6

    Men with 18 and under 19 years' pensionable service

    2

    5

    2

    Men with 17 and under 18 years' pensionable service

    2

    3

    2

    3

    Men with 16 and under 17 years' pensionable service

    2

    1

    2

    1

    Men with 15 and under 16 years' pensionable service

    1

    11

    1

    1 l

    Men with 14 and under 15 years' pensionable service

    1

    9

    1

    9

    Men with 12 and under 14 years' pensionable service

    1

    7

    1

    7


  3. The usual additions for Petty Time allowances, viz. :- Chief Petty Officer after 12 years' pensionable service, Petty Officer, and leading rate service, to be allowed, as under existing Regulations.
  4. Additional allowances for Good Conduct Badges and Good Conduct Medal to be granted at the rates approved in Your Majesty's Order in Council of the 7th February, 1921, but to be based on the men's qualifications at the date of actual discharge.
    Men who can show 22 years' pensionable service to be entitled to 1d. a day addition to their pension provided their character has been assessed as 'Very Good’ throughout their service.
  5. Men pensioned under this Section to receive a gratuity equal to the difference for 21 months between the substantive rate of pay of their rating, whether ‘acting' or confirmed, and the basic rate of pension, unless they are within 21 months of completing time for pension, when gratuities will be similarly calculated on the difference of time between the actual date of discharge and the date they would have completed time for pension.
  6. Men with less than 12 years' pensionable service who would have completed 12 years by the 11th August, 1922, will not be eligible for benefits under this Section if they fall within any of the following categories:
    1. Men with character assessed below `Good' for two out of the three consecutive years immediately preceding discharge;
    2. Men with ability assessed below `Satisfactory' for two out of the three consecutive years immediately preceding discharge.
    3. (Note to a. and b.:- Assessment due for the portion of 1922 served up to the date of discharge to be considered the last yearly assessment.)
    4. Men sentenced by Court Martial or Warrant, or its equivalent in the case of Royal Marines serving under the Army Act, on more than two occasions during the 24 months immediately preceding discharge;
    5. Men marked 'Run' between the 4th August, 1914, and 11th November, 1918, unless the ‘Run' has subsequently been removed by proper authority.
  7. In the case of Officers' Stewards and Cooks, the period by which pensionable service in sea-going ships in commission falls short of seven years to be deducted from the total pensionable Service.
  8. The foregoing rates of pension not to be liable to reduction hereafter in respect of reduced cost of living.
  9. Time served in the Army and the Royal Air Force to count towards pension, or bonus under Sections (B) and (C) below, as under existing Regulations.
  10. In the event of a man who has accepted discharge under these conditions being allowed to re-enter, he may be required to refund the whole of any payment made to him in respect of gratuity under paragraph 3 above, or bonus under Sections (B) and (C) below, as a condition of reckoning his former service for any further pension or gratuity.

Section B.

  1. Continuous Service ratings, except those serving under Short Service engagements for definite periods of less than seven years, non-continuous service ratings and Marine ranks ineligible for pension under Section (A), but with at least five years' pensionable service reckoned up to the 11th August, 1922, or to date of discharge if detained later through causes not under their own control, to be eligible for bonuses at the following rates.
  2. Men with at least 11 years' pensionable service, unless they fall within any of the categories referred to in Section (A), paragraph 4, to be eligible for 24 months' (730 days) substantive pay.
    Men with 10 but under 11 years, except men with 10 years' service to date of application who fall within any of the categories referred to in Section (A), paragraph 4, to be eligible for 21 months' (638 days) substantive pay.

    Men with 9 but under 10 years to be eligible for 18 months' (547 days) substantive pay.
    Men with 8 but under 9 years to be eligible for 15 months' (456 days) substantive pay.
    Men with 7 but under 8 years to be eligible for 12 months' (365 days) substantive pay.
    Men with 6 but under 7 years to be eligible for 9 months' (273 days) substantive pay.
    Men with 5 but under 6 years to be eligible fir 6 months' (182 days) substantive pay.

    The restrictions referred to in Section (A), paragraph 4, not to apply to men with under 10 years' pensionable service at the date of application.
  3. Men serving under short service engagements for definite periods of seven years not to count more than 11 years' service in all for the payment of bonus under this Section.

Section C.

  1. The following classes, viz.:

    1. Naval ratings and Marine ranks who have less than 5 years' pensionable service, reckoned up to the 11th August, 1922, or to the date of discharge in the case of men detained later through causes not under their own control;

    2. Special Service ratings, and Continuous Service ratings serving under Short Service engagements for definite periods of less than 7 years, whatever their previous length of service ;

    3. Men with from 10 to 12 years' pensionable service at the date of application who fall within any of the categories (a) to (d) of Section (A), paragraph 4, to be eligible for a bonus of £20 only.

  2. Debts due to the Crown not to be recoverable from bonuses of £20 payable under this Section.


1922 10 20 - Discharge of Surplus Stoker Petty Officers and Leading Stokers
His Majesty, having taken the said Memorial into consideration, was pleased by and with the advice of His Privy Council, to approve of what is therein proposed.

And the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty are to give the necessary directions herein accordingly.


And whereas, owing to the increased number of Stoker ratings employed during the late war, and the reduced requirements of Your Majesty's Fleet under post-war conditions a large surplus of Stoker Petty Officers and Leading Stokers resulted:

And whereas it has been considered desirable to reduce the number of ratings to the establishment estimated to be necessary for the year 1921-22 and to effect such reduction by discharging surplus ratings with bonus at the undermentioned scales, viz.:-

  • Stoker Petty Officers £130.
  • Leading Stokers £100.

1923 05 08
Further RN & Coast Guard Redundancies
And whereas by Order in Council of 13th October, 1922, Your Majesty was pleased to sanction the payment of pensions, gratuities and bonuses to men selected for discharge in consequence of the reduction of Your Majesty's Naval or Marine Force subsequently to the 12th May, 1922, the time to count for pension purposes being reckoned up to the 11th August, 1922, or to the date of discharge in the case of men detained beyond that date through causes not under their own control:

And whereas in order to complete the reduction of Your Majesty's Naval and Marine Forces we have found it necessary, subsequently to the 11th August., 1922, to invite further applications from men for discharge from those Forces and to discharge compulsorily additional men from those Forces:

And whereas in consequence of the reduction of Your Majesty's Coast Guard (Old Force) we have further found it necessary to invite applications from men for discharge from that Force:

We beg leave humbly to recommend that Your Majesty may be graciously pleased, by Your Order in Council, to direct: -

  1. that men applying for discharge from Your Majesty's Naval and Marine Forces under the scheme for the reduction of these Forces subsequently to the 11th August, 1922, and granted such discharge, and men applying for discharge from Your Majesty's Coast Guard (Old Force) and granted such discharge, shall be eligible for pensions, gratuities and bonuses subject to the general restrictions, conditions and provisions directed by Your Majesty's Order in Council of the 13th October, 1922, with the exception that the service of such men shall be reckoned up to the date of their discharge in all cases, or, in the case of men discharged from Your Majesty's Coast Guard (Old Force), to the 19th January, 1923, if discharge shall have taken place earlier than that date;
  2. that men compulsorily discharged from Your Majesty's Naval and Marine Forces under the present scheme of reduction shall be eligible for pensions, gratuities and bonuses subject to the general restrictions, conditions and provisions directed by Your Majesty's Order in Council of the 13th October, 1922, with the exception that the service of such men for pension shall be reckoned up to the date of discharge, or to the 31st March, 1923, if discharge takes place before that date.

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